• Susaga@ttrpg.network
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    I would say yes. Plants feed off of the bodies of dead lions according to this animated documentary I saw, and that doesn’t make them any less vegan. Then again, I’m not a vegan, so I might be entirely wrong.

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        Feeding off of dead bodies isn’t what makes it vegan or not. Plants are plants and animals are not, regardless of their diet.

        Or are you trying to argue that grass isn’t vegan?

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            Animals are harmed in industrial farming as well. It sucks, but doesn’t make wheat not being vegan.

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              Your double negative is throwing me for a loop.

              I also don’t get the jump from industrial Ag and wheat.

              Can you word your point differently?

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                Wheat is vegan, even if animals are harmed in the process of growing and harvesting it (pesticides, rodents in combine harvesters).

                Venus fly traps are vegan, even if they harmed flies.

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                  What if the meat was harvested in a humane manner? Nitrogen asphyxiation, for instance, which is being trialed for use on humans wishing to commit suicide?

                  I’m not debating the merits current meat harvesting; on an industrial scale it’s abhorrent. I’m just mostly wanting to know where the line is drawn

                  In my case I point out above, the only real differences is that humans have a choice and animals would not (this is a big one, I will grant you) and what is ultimately consumed.

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                    The animal has a inherent will to live, there is no way to compassionately kill someone that doesn’t want to die. Euthanasia is very different because the being actually wants to die.

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                    I’m just mostly wanting to know where the line is drawn

                    There is no single line. People have their own principles and can think for themselves what they do and do not support, instead of just following the masses.

                    It really feels like you’re trying way too hard to “checkmate vegans”. Why do you care so much?

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            Besides being cannibalism, I’m pretty sure all vegans would tell you that humans have sentience greater than, if not on par with, the average animal. So eating one would not be vegan

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                  I’m replying here cos I can’t find the comment you posted: I see humans as worthwhile as any other species but boy do we overrate ourselves. We’re the most important creature, the animal that has to be better than all the rest. We’d go without eating if that were possible. In the end what we do doesn’t matter much. Life keeps on going where it can and the spheres keep turning around.