• Gloomy@mander.xyz
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    This meme is not true and missleading. I know it fits the narrative of “companies bad”. But it’s not based on fact.

    It’s based on an article by the guardian.

    Just 100 companies responsible for 71% of global emissions, study says

    The article is based on the Carbon Major Report.

    It describes itself like this:

    Carbon Majors is a database of historical production data from 122 of the world’s largest oil, gas, coal, and cement producers. This data is used to quantify the direct operational emissions and emissions from the combustion of marketed products that can be attributed to these entities.

    As you can see, they speak about “entities”, not companies. Who are said entities?

    75 Investor-owned Companies, 36 State-owned Companies, 11 Nation States, 82 Oil Producing Entities, 81 Gas Entities, 49 Coal Entities, 6 Cement Entities

    As one might realize, only 75 are Companies. Most of them are either States, or producers of Oil, Gas, Coal and Cement.

    The 71 % is not at all about global emissions. This is wrong.

    72% of Global Fossil Fuel & Cement CO2 Emissions

    So it’s 100 entities that are responsible for 72 % of the world’s fossil and cement Co2 emission.

    https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/05dfb9e1-ace2-4072-9fc5-7ed6f6eddfb2.png

    Looking at them you can see how the top emitter are very much not companies. Also, it’s historical Co2, a fact made prominent by the former Soviet union beeing the top emitter.

    Let’s look at some more findings:

    The Carbon Majors database finds that most state- and investor-owned companies have expanded their production operations since the Paris Agreement. 58 out of the 100 companies were linked to higher emissions in the seven years after the Paris Agreement than in the same period before. This increase is most pronounced in Asia, where 13 out of 15 (87%) assessed companies are connected to higher emissions in 2016–2022 than in 2009–2015, and in the Middle East, where this number is 7 out of 10 companies (70%). In Europe, 13 of 23 companies (57%), in South America, 3 of 5 (60%) companies, and in Australia, 3 out of 4 (75%) companies were linked to increased emissions, as were 3 of 6 (50%) African companies. North America is the only region where a minority of companies, 16 of 37 (43%), were linked to rising emissions.

    Here the report mixes state and private companies. The rise is most prominent in countries with state owned companies. Privote companies, as seen in Europe and North America, haven’t increased that much.

    So, all in all: The idea that 100 companies are responsible for the destruction of earth is plain wrong.

    I know the ideas that companies are responsible and to blaim for the current state of affairs fits our world view (it fits mine!!), but please don’t run into the trap of believing everything you read just because it does.

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      18 hours ago

      Okay, brass in the us military can line up for the guillotine alongside the c suites at Exxon mobile and royal dutch shell

      And maybe we can have a long hard conversation about concrete.

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        17 hours ago

        Looking at the numbers you should maybe include Chinas Coal Industry in there, since it is responsible for about 25 % of global emissions alone, according to the up to date report.

        And the people at Gazprom also deserve a prominent spot in that line.

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          17 hours ago

          Yes. And all the politicians who made it harder to fix this.

          I just have a particar grudge against western oil companies for proliferating cars. I’m in train gang pretty hard, and the whole battery patent thing that killed electric cars in the 90s honestly deserved a very active gallows.

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      19 hours ago

      Yes and no. The Carbon Majors Report provides two ways of looking at global emissions: Cumulative and Annual. The table you showed reflects the Cumulative Emissions Since Industrial Revolution (1751-2022)

      While not reported in the Guardian article, the same 2017 report stated 72% (p5) of global industrial GHGs in 2015 came from 224 companies, with the sample breakdown in the 2017 report, Appendix II (p15). As you can see, pretty much all of those producers are private/state-owned companies and much closer to the current picture of annual emissions. I’m not sure what counts as “industrial”, but crunching the raw numbers of 30565/46073 Mt (Global Emissions, statcan) it works out to about 66% of global emissions in 2015.

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        17 hours ago

        Why are you using data from the 2017 report?

        You are referring to page 15, which shows emissions in 2015. In the up to date 2024 report this has been replaced with emissions after the Paris climate agreement, so 2016 till 2022.

        As you can see, the same picture emerges as I stated in my first post: the top actors are Nations or state owned producers. The contribution to global Co2 emissions is listet, but still only refers to fossil fuel and cement Co 2 emissions.