• ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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    7 days ago

    You’re a surprisingly dense person. You’ve managed to mistake a news article for a financial audit, misread a number of comments, misinterpret numbers, think that the phrase “article I agree with” means I don’t agree with it, and somehow take “hey, your number’s wrong” to mean “your numbers are wrong, your conclusion is wrong, and everything you say is wrong”.

    I wrote assets, because I was talking about total assets

    Except, you didn’t. And neither did the article I said was inaccurate where you plainly pulled that number from.
    Maybe go actually read the second article you shared, which doesn’t get their cash or assets wrong or make grossly inaccurate assertions about their financial status.

    Also, congrats on actually running with “bold of you to assume I can read”.

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      7 days ago

      “You’re a surprisingly dense person.”

      Huhh?

      “You’ve managed to mistake a news article for a financial audit,”

      nope, that’s a straw man you’ve been trying to prop up for a dozen comments because you can’t refute my main point that WMF has plenty of money and shouldn’t be lying to and manipulating donors for more.

      “misread a number of comments”

      still no evidence for that after a dozen comments? rad.

      “misinterpret numbers”

      you don’t think three is next to four… that one’s on you.

      “think that the phrase “article I agree with” means I don’t agree with”

      also nope

      so your strategy is to keep making things up?

      consistent.

      "the second article you shared, which doesn’t get their cash or assets wrong "

      see, every time you respond, you make up a whole bunch of stuff, and then right at the end you angrily insist “also, I agreed with you all along!”

      fine, I’m glad you can’t refute these things anymore.

      You can keep ranting about irrelevant details and then agreeing with my original conclusion.

      from the first comment.

      I’m fine with that.

      “Also, congrats on actually running with “bold of you to assume I can read”.”

      thank you!

      given that I’ve roundly quashed all of your efforts here, I figured that insult was a facetious, last-ditch attempt of yours to distract from your illogical meandering and thought it would be fun to turn that little insult back on you.

      it was fun!

      your insults and tangents have that “water off a duck’s back” quality I enjoy.

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        7 days ago

        you can’t refute my main point that…

        This is the part where you’re dense as fuck. As I said from the get go, I wasn’t trying to do that, you absolute insecure buffoon.
        Go back and re-read the first comment, and try not being insecure and combative. I was literally, as you say, correcting a typo (Although then using that typo in math makes me feel like it was a misunderstanding of the numbers and not a typo).

        You can keep ranting about irrelevant details and then agreeing with my original conclusion.

        “Wikipedia has a half billion cash and is evil for asking for more” is really different from “Wikipedia isn’t in as bad a situation as you might think, and donation isn’t as crucial as they might lead you to believe”.
        Your first comment is grossly misleading. I don’t really give a shit about your conclusion, since I’m ambivalent about donating. See also: the paragraphs I quoted from your second article I liked.

        Maybe, just maybe, it’s like I’ve been saying and you refuse to accept: I’m not trying to “gotcha” you, I just actually cared about accurate numbers. If you actually care about accurate numbers for drawing conclusions, like a person who goes and reads financial audits might, then perhaps they aren’t “irrelevant details”. Or, as I like to call them: A $320 million dollar error.

        You’re the one who can’t accept that someone saying “hey, their financials are by no means weak but they don’t have decades of cash saved up” isn’t a disagreement with your main point.

        Then you went off on insane ad hominem tangents and refused to believe that maybe someone isn’t attacking you.

        given that I’ve roundly quashed all of your efforts here

        You really haven’t. If you’ll recall: “what the fuck are you even talking about”? Insecure gibberish isn’t the masterful debate strategy you think it is. You aren’t coming across as cleverly as you seem to think you are.

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          6 days ago

          “This is the part where you’re dense as fuck”

          buh-hurrr?

          “I said from the get go, I wasn’t trying to do that, you absolute insecure buffoon.”

          The crippling insecurity of… let’s check your notes… my having been correct, not getting distracted by your tangents and make-believe and you now furiously insisting that there never was an argument about the main point and all you wanted to do was fruitlessly quibble about one irrelevant point on the number line for a dozen comments.

          where shall I ever gain the confidence to stand up to your relentless onslaught?

          “Go back and re-read the first comment”

          nah,; I got it the first time.

          not a brain buster.

          “I was literally, as you say, correcting a typo.”

          or rounding error, butI know, that’s why I literally said it.

          “Your first comment is grossly misleading”

          mmm, nah, that’s the one you agreed with, you silly goose.

          “Then you went off on insane ad hominem tangents”

          here are your quotes:

          “you’re dense as fuck.”

          “you absolute insecure buffoon.”

          you get a confused between what I wrote and you wrote again?

          Hey, did I teach you the word “tangent”? look at that, time not wasted!

          ““Wikipedia has a half billion cash and is evil for asking for more” is very different than…”

          it’s also a made-up quote from you, just now, that you made up.

          or have you been responding to a different person this entire time and you think you’re making a point to someone with completely different comments?

          that would be the funniest thing, if the reason it’s so easy to dispel all of your made-up quotes is because you think you’re talking to a different person.

          that would make a certain sense for you, you conflate a lot.

          “I’m ambivalent about donating.”

          clearly, you have no horse in this game.

          you are carefree and feckless.

          “Maybe, just maybe, it’s like I’ve been saying…”

          We already agreed that it is not and as you freely admit, it is like I’ve been saying from the first comment.

          are you talking about the typo/ rounding error that doesn’t affect the outcome and nobody disputed?

          Great work on sticking with that mote in a sandstorm.

          “as I like to call them…”

          you do it! you go ahead and call them whatever you like!

          you can call them unicorns or wyverns, whatever strikes your fancy.

          “they don’t have decades of cash saved up” isn’t a disagreement with your main point"

          I agree, it doesn’t affect my main point at all.

          glad we’re doing this.

          makes a lot of sense for you to combatively agree with my point over and over again.

          “Then you went off on insane…”

          how crazy it must seem to you to stick to a single point and not deviate from it, not to get distracted by relentless quibbles, not even to make up quotes or delve into irrelevant rabbit holes that do not affect the outcome!

          imagine how much simple being correct in the first place about the actual topic must be.

          smoooth sailing.

          “You aren’t coming across as cleverly as you seem to think you are.”

          virtue of the medium by which I am constrained.

          like you said, you agree with my main point straight off the bat, but then you insist on creating fictional arguments so I am limited to responding to you raving and ranting about the number four not being the number three, or feeble insults, or you pretending that cash are somehow not assets.

          or pointing out your made-up quotes.

          at this point, I’m just helping you polish your turds.

          that’s okay, I have time and you have…who knows, I’m sure you have something.

          you’re probably great at getting all the toothpaste out of the toothpaste tube, right?

          you can be proud of that.