Are westerners being robbed of TP when we get the hollow rolls? Is communism the right path after all?

  • abbadon420@lemm.ee
    1534·
    3 个月前

    I’ve been on Lemmy for about a year, so I’m certain that communism is the only right path.

  • drathvedro@lemm.ee
    118·
    3 个月前

    Don’t go to Russia. Every once in a while you can encounter this atrocity. Yes, it has holes right out of the roll, no perforation whatsoever and not even a hole that you could hang it on and therefore outer layers are always dirty. And, of course, feels like a sandpaper, tears when wiping, but stretches when you actually try to get a piece. Please don’t tell me that this exists outside of Russia, that’d be way to much assrash for this world.

    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
      66·
      3 个月前

      Don’t go to Russia.

      There’s a very tall list of reasons to not go to Russia and their toilet papers isn’t very high on it.

      • BambiDiego@lemmy.world
        32·
        3 个月前

        I don’t know…

        My list goes:

        1. Their toilet paper

        2. I might criticize Putin

        3. I might criticize the government

        • drathvedro@lemm.ee
          153·
          3 个月前

          Well, I wouldn’t worry about 2 and 3 that much. It’s just that as a foreigner, especially if you are from the US, you will most definitely fall under the surveillance of FSB and the cops will look at you twice, but they’re not paid half-decent enough to actually give a shit and do their job properly. They might harass you here and there but if you don’t do anything stupid like protesting in red square or doing selfies in front of military bases, then they’ll have nothing against you. I imagine that’s not that much worse than living in the US under CIA’s umbrella and trigger happy cops. Other than that, it’s not nearly an extreme hellhole like NK, Afghanistan or Syria that people make it sound like. In fact, you can get by in Moscow or St. Petersburg without a guide or translator just fine. I’d rather advise to watch out for the tourist traps(the usual), and to avoid getting out of the city limits and into the suburbs because of the much increased crime levels.

          Ah, and put the fact that for every dollar you spend there, you put 20 cents straight into Putin’s pocket into that list…

          And also that you’d probably need a visa and it’s a hassle…

          And that you’d probably need a Russian friend to get you hooked up with the basics and avoid going through the bureaucracy - like with currency exchange, credit card, carrier plan, etc…

          Also that weather is rather harsh there…

          And also that it’s probably the dirtiest country on earth because city planners didn’t zone out lawns and parks properly therefore the mud gets spread absolutely everywhere…

          And that internet is half-broken, with half sites censored while the others block everyone from Russian IP’s because sanctions…

          And that Ukraine might not let you in afterwards…

          And that you’d for sure be questioned by your homecountry’s intelligence services…

          And that’s about all that I can think of.

            • drathvedro@lemm.ee
              6·
              3 个月前

              Well, it that case you’re referring to, the guy was actually snooping around which would fall into doing stupid things. But, just in case, just this once, here’s a free get out of jail free card: If you ever got caught just say that you’re an orthodox christian who came to Russia to enjoy based traditional culture in this bastion of anti-woke-ism and family values, and complain about some dumb shit like how western liberal agenda prevents you from hitting your wife or something. They can’t put you on TV while you are in prison, so they’ll have to let you go.

          • SSJMarx@lemm.eeEnglish
            25·
            3 个月前

            it’s not nearly an extreme hellhole like NK

            North Korea is like ten times nicer than Russia, and definitely doesn’t belong on the same list as Taliban-controlled Afghanistan or still-a-warzone Syria, regardless of what you think of their government.

              • SSJMarx@lemm.eeEnglish
                11·
                3 个月前

                unquestioningly believe Western propaganda about a country you’ve never been too

                it’s OTHER people who are naive

                'kay bud.

                • mods_mum@lemmy.today
                  2·
                  3 个月前

                  Yes, and the Earth is flat because you never went to space to confirm it’s a globe. Stupid people don’t know they’re stupid, it’s only a problem for everyone around them. Get help.

            • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              21·
              3 个月前

              girl, there are pictures of north koreans gathering GRASS because they don’t have food. And they will kill you or put you in a camp if you try to leave.

    • ivanafterall ☑️@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      3 个月前

      I encountered this in Ukraine, often combined with those toilets in the floor and/or extremely rickety, extremely “well-loved” outhouses. Once, we stopped in what appeared to be a stranger’s yard and my hosts advised we were at the rest stop. I asked where the restroom was. They all started laughing. They are a hearty bunch.

      • drathvedro@lemm.ee
        9·
        3 个月前

        The one that’s just like a concrete block with few holes in the floor? God that shit’s terrifying. Grew up in Russia and luckily never had to use one of those as they were never the only option. But if I had to, I’d rather shit my pants instead. Had to use shoddy garden toilets, squat toilets and toilets with no stalls before a few times each, all were awful experiences, but this thing, it combines all three for the ultimate discomfort.

    • brachypelmasmithi@lemm.ee
      14·
      3 个月前

      You see these in Poland every now and then, just with an actual central hole. I remember seeing these in my school, we used to call it srajtaśma (“shit tape” is the best translation I can think of), and it was just as bad as you described it. It also had a very particular smell to it.

      • drathvedro@lemm.ee
        5·
        3 个月前

        Funny how I could probably understand what you mean if you said it without translation. Sounds very simillar to срать тесьма, which is also shit tape, though it’s not a correct grammatically in Russian. To my knowledge, we don’t have a specific name for it, but if there were I’d say it’d either be студенческая/солдатсткая (student/soldier) paper because they’re so poor, or жоподёрка (the assripper)

      • drathvedro@lemm.ee
        4·
        3 个月前

        Very close to it, yeah, like a very thin and shitty one. Doesn’t stretch as much nor is as sturdy, but the texture is spot on.

    • LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      3 个月前

      These exist and are widely used in rural Romania. Even public institutions like schools and town halls use these there. They’re not the worst you can get though. About 10-15 years ago you’d also stumble across houses that had no toilet paper, just newspapers. You were supposed to wipe with those. Not a fun experience!

    • manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml
      52·
      3 个月前

      Its literally tissue paper, I think youre being pretty dramatic

      looks like itd be more ecofriendly because its mot bleached, and its not shipping around with a heap of empty space for the (now i think about it) oversized cardboard tube

    • Venat0r@lemmy.world
      15·
      3 个月前

      Do they not have holders specifically designed for it? Could just have two rollers that support it from the bottom.

      • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
        62·
        3 个月前

        We used to have one at home. It’s like a clam shell – the roll sits in the bottom half, the hinged top half closes on top, and the paper is threaded through a wide gap.

        It was popular in former Soviet territories. My guess is that many households only had poorly-built outhouses and no reliable supply of toilet paper, and this design protected the roll from water damage.

            • zzx@lemmy.world
              4·
              3 个月前

              That’s awesome dude, nice work! I wish I were this good in blender. I have to use CAD to make my models and then export them to the scene in blender. It’s an annoying workflow but I’m just not good at “traditional” modeling in blender

      • edric@lemm.ee
        5·
        3 个月前

        There are plastic containers similar to box tissue but are round with a hole in the middle of the lid. Then you pull the toilet paper from the center of the roll.

    • cordlesslamp@lemmy.today
      2·
      3 个月前

      they have tp holders for those tubeless rolls. It’s hung on the wall like a box with a slit at the bottom to pull the tp through.

  • Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    714·
    3 个月前

    It’s so hard to use toilet paper after getting a bidet.

    I mean sure, I use TP to double check the bidet did it’s job and to dry. But wiping twice as opposed to dealing with a marker butthole has spoiled me.

    • Surp@lemmy.world
      2111·
      3 个月前

      Only reason you have a marker butthole is because you ain’t eating enough fiber motha fucka. Get some fiber powder and drink that shit bro wtf don’t spread misinformation like you spread your ass to shoot water up there to enema douche the bit of poop you left pinched off up your buttholy hole because you ain’t eating some God damn fiber my man!! EAT FIBER YO POO BE ONE BIG OL UNBREAKABLE LINK ITS WONDERFUL 👍

  • kibiz0r@midwest.socialEnglish
    54·
    3 个月前

    That’s cuz you gotta bring your own TP with you instead of it being provided to you for free. No need for a TP holder tube if you’re not gonna share.

    Wait, are US bathrooms communist???

    • Agent641@lemmy.worldOP
      34·
      3 个月前

      Dont let the Republicans find out! They will lobby to take free TP out of schools on account of spreading communist ideology.

  • LouNeko@lemmy.world
    38·
    3 个月前

    Food so spicy, they give you a roll of bandages as toilet paper. Patch yourself up.

  • ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world
    27·
    3 个月前

    There are some commercial rolls I’ve seen in the US that seem to be a happy medium…the holder itself in the stall has a thin plastic rod for the TP to go on, and the rolls have a very small opening in the center (and no cardboard) to go on that rod.

  • THCDenton@lemmy.world
    221·
    3 个月前

    Here in Vietnam we use the whole toilet paper! That’s 65% more toilet paper per toilet paper!

  • Norin@lemmy.world
    20·
    3 个月前

    You can buy something like this here in the US.

    The roll is smaller, and they market it as being made for camping (takes up less space in the pack, etc). It also, of course, costs more because of this, since modern camping gear loves to price gouge.

    If you’re going to pack TP though, just spool what you need around something smaller in diameter (like a skewer). Or if you know what you’re doing then just use leaves instead, those are free.

  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15·
    3 个月前

    I used to buy rolls where the center of the tube came as a little personal roll you could put in your purse. I can’t remember which brand anymore.

  • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
    14·
    3 个月前

    In China it comes stacked in bags and you pull it out sheet by sheet like paper hand towels or a box of tissues. You can hang the bag up.

  • UselesslyBrisk@infosec.pubEnglish
    14·
    3 个月前

    I dont think i saw any TP in VN. Everything was bidet and wash hands.

    wasnt terrible. Cold showers constantly and no water pressure were by far more of a culture shock to me. It was more similar to when I would go and hike for weeks on end in college.

    • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      3 个月前

      Yeah when they say 10 min max limit, they really mean it.

      And even then you see people taking showers as fast as 5 minutes to save water stored in the tank.

      • ngwoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        3 个月前

        Do they use rainwater collection tanks for showers or is it just a buffer tank on the roof to compensate for low pressure?

        • UselesslyBrisk@infosec.pubEnglish
          1·
          2 个月前

          From what i saw they seemed to be pressure/heat tanks (they were mostly silver or dark and in full sun).

          Looked like most places had their own personal water tower.

    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
      21·
      3 个月前

      Skin pores close on cold water, making it less effective. Feels gross for me too (hypersensitivity), did that once for a while in a hot summer.

      • LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee
        2·
        3 个月前

        Hmm. I guess theoretically you could soap up with warmer water before getting in the cold shower. So the shower is mostly just rinse.

        • UselesslyBrisk@infosec.pubEnglish
          2·
          3 个月前

          I was in the southern parts, you were hot and it was already warm. The shower was basically a way to cool off. I would take a couple a day, but they were always quick. and again, water pressure was like 5-10 psi on a good day.

          We got an Airbnb in Hanoi at one point, and that had hot showers and good pressure and I took a very long one. Best I had felt in a while.

  • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
    141·
    3 个月前

    As a household that doesn’t use a toilet paper roller, this would be amazing. I hate throwing away all those empty rolls

  • Vilian@lemmy.ca
    12·
    3 个月前

    In Brazil I saw a toiled paper that the center was filled with another roll, so you’d need to remove that center to put it in your bathroom and use it as a “portable toilet paper” to carry with you