• Glytch@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        That website is confusing, it doesn’t let you order any dog meat. It also seems to assume I would have a problem with the product? Is that a strategy to make me want it more?

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        2 months ago

        Doing this sort of “eating a cow is no more ethical than eating a dog” thing isn’t necessarily untrue (although ethics are, of course, a subjective thing) but it does not really convince people not to eat meat. If you are going to argue from an ethics of killing and eating an animal angle, talk about why it is cruel to kill and eat animals that most people who eat meat are used to eating.

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          2 months ago

          Different people react to different things. It takes many approaches to reach multiple types of humans.

          I personally reacted after months of being shown hypocrisy, with the tipping point being when I said there’s no problem with eggs and dairy before I was shown what the egg and dairy industries do.

          Part of that process was really realizing, not just knowing but consciously thinking about and considering the fact that humans are also meat. I am meat. The cats I loved were meat. My human family is meat. It’s not okay to eat them in a sandwich. Why is it okay to eat strangers in a sandwich?

          No one approach will work on every human, and many people take a lot of different approaches over time to really understand.

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          2 months ago

          I always fall back on the concept of graphing how delicious the animal is vs how much of an asshole it is. Ducks? Absolutely delicious and raging assholes; they are the perfect meal. Dogs? Too sweet to ever try and on the negative side of the asshole graph. Cats? Rather asshole but not sure how they taste…

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            2 months ago

            Maybe you’re joking but I have seen people say this seriously so I’ll respond seriously. Determining which conscious beings to inflict pain and suffering onto based on characteristics they were born with through no choice of their own is pretty shitty.

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              I’m all for the most humane and ethical means of getting meat and the day I can get a steak that didn’t require a cow to die but is indistinguishable from the real thing I will absolutely switch over, but until then I’m going to enjoy delicious, delicious duck and not feel bad about. Wouldn’t eat a dog even in an apocalypse though.

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        2 months ago

        Yeah that’s an obvious troll response you vеgаn’s use

        People are well aware of it

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            2 months ago

            Yep. My vegan brother has two dogs and three cats and has no problem giving them meat (or meat-based food anyway) as part of their diet.

            It’s not some universal idea that vegans will be okay with keeping meat-eating pets but refuse to give them that meat.

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        2 months ago

        Vegan is a philosophy, not a diet. The word you’re looking for is plant-based, not vegan.

        A vegan wouldn’t buy leather shoes or woolen sweaters. Someone on a plant-based diet would.

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          2 months ago

          Sure, but the average person does not know or care about the distinction. It’s much easier to explain this way. I’ll see if I can incorporate this terminology instead next time though

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      2 months ago

      Great idea, let’s stop re-homing rescue animals shall we?