people have been demonizing it for most of the AD years i think but it’s quite pleasant really. are there any proven negative effects?

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    I want you to go back and re-read both of my posts and tell me where I said the words “porn addiction” or alluded to porn being the addiction. I’m trying to work with you here buddy, but you’ve decided that I’m saying something I haven’t said, after I took the time to clearly explain as much.

    I literally am not talking about porn addiction nor have I used the words porn addiction, so can you take your crusade elsewhere, please and thank you.

    The people you’re talking about with cum jars often don’t even see their behavior as a problem, much less labeling themselves addicts.

    Literally what I am talking about and why I didn’t use the term porn addiction.

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      I’m sorry, I guess I don’t understand why you’re talking about addictions and how that relates to dopamine in your first comment if you’re not talking about porn addiction. I’m not using quotes around porn addiction to directly quote you, I’m using them because I don’t believe porn addiction is a real thing.

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        how that relates to dopamine in your first comment if you’re not talking about porn addiction

        Dude, we’re literally talking about how orgasms release dopamine. What the fuck are you smoking? I’m literally talking about the orgasm itself!

        Fucking reading comprehension is dead.

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          If your problem is specifically me using the word porn when you’re talking about masturbation more generally, with or without porn, does it help to add the context that “porn addiction” is used interchangeably by these groups with “masturbation addiction”? I’m not really sure where this is breaking down.

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            I’m not really sure where this is breaking down.

            Phrases like “couple this with” from this sentence from my first comment are how I’m breaking it down. The meaning of this is “in addition to” not “these are equals.” I’m sorry you’ve not managed to read the context words I added specifically for this purpose.

            Couple this with how incredibly unhealthy the social relationships portrayed in most pornography are, and you’re gearing up for a lot of young men addicted to wanking and having unrealistic expectations of sex.

            From my second comment:

            The porn is rather a social knock-on effect because people often seek out porn to make the pathway to dopamine release easier.

            Because it’s true that people use shortcuts to cumming, like porn.

            I reiterate, reading comprehension is dead.

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              Dude, I’ve tried engaging with you politely on this and elaborating on each thing I was saying. If you’re married to the idea of masturbation addiction being real despite the scientific evidence for it being incredibly weak and the “treatment” being bankrolled by religious groups, knock yourself out.

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                Ima be real with you.

                Arguing all masturbation is inherently good isn’t any better or morally superior than arguing all masturbation is inherently bad. Extremism is extremism and literally all I was talking about was moderation. If you can’t handle someone arguing moderation, it sounds like maybe you really do have a problem.

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                  Lmao, I’m at a stage of my life and on the types of medications that would make wanting to masturbate a lot a welcome change.

                  Masturbation (in private obviously) is a neutral act. Anyone trying to characterize it as inherently good or bad is suspect. Anyone trying to sell you a cure for something mainstream society tells you is shameful, doubly so.

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                    Anyone trying to sell you a cure for something mainstream society tells you is shameful, doubly so.

                    Trumpers really took this one and ran with it during COVID with not masking and spitting in people’s faces.

                    They literally want to hang the people who tried to sell them a cure for something mainstream society told them was shameful, a disease they decided was a “librul hoax.”

                    …because guess the fuck what? They were actually, genuinely, acting shamefully. Too bad they had no shame.

                    I don’t think this as strong of an argument than you think it is. Sometimes mainstream society can be right about an act being shameful.