‘You’re Telling Me in 2023, You Still Have a ’Droid?’ Why Teens Hate Android Phones / A recent survey of teens found that 87% have iPhones, and don’t plan to switch::undefined

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    1 year ago

    I’m personally so tired of defending android to iPhone users. At the end of the day, it’s personal preference. IPhone is a walled-garden, curated and closed system that has features that are more uniform and well developed across the whole brand. Android has custom options for a huge variety of things that iPhone can’t match simply due to the nature of android’s open system. Android also tends to have significantly cheaper modern options, but iPhone tends to get OS and security updates much longer.

    They both have huge market shares and neither can fill the other’s niche well enough to bump the other out. It’s not a competition, it’s just preference. Is it really such a big deal to point out that teens prefer one over the other? Once the next generation comes to an age of owning phones, we might just find that they find iphones lame and old and swap back to android. That’s kind of how generations tend to work.

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      I would prefer my phones to work well with other phones. If your phone requires that everyone else buy the same overpriced phone, it is not a better device. Anyone can make something that talks well with itself.

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        I’m on the same page as you. It should be noted, however, that the kind of exclusivity you find repulsive actually works as a selling point for apple. It’s like, “Buy an iPhone! All your friends have them and you want to be able to talk to them right?” Peer pressure is a hell of a drug

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          I’m aware, it’s why I inherently don’t trust them. They are anticompetitive to a fault. It is unethical no matter what code of ethics you go by and I vote with my wallet.

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        Using Apple devices isn’t just about the communication it’s about the whole ecosystem working together. No one does that as well across phone, tablet, laptop/desktop, watch, tv box, and speakers. That’s what sold my tech-illiterate wife and that’s why they’re so popular.

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          I’m not disagreeing with you. But the trade off is price. When you pay $2.5k more for a phone/tablet/laptop/desktop/watch/tv/speaker setup than you would for all of those things individually with industry standard features, they freakin better work together seamlessly.

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      You robbed Apple of the true superiority of their offering: the hardware. There isn’t a phone out there that comes close to being as well designed and beautiful as an iPhone. That’s important to some people.

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        That’s a silly take.

        The hardware offerings outside of Apple are just more diverse. You could buy a $40 Motorola or LG and get exactly what you’d expect. Or you could get the flagship Samsung or Google and blow the iPhone out of the water.

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          I’m not one of these Apple salespeople, but I was a latecomer to iPhone. Started with the 12. It was the first device I owned as far back as I remember that didn’t feel like it was lagging/dying at the end of year one. And consequently I didn’t replace it as I had with years of Pixels, Nexus, Samsungs, etc prior. I think their hardware design is better. And I think the hardware + software tightness results in extending the life of the hardware. And I say this still wishing I could get the new Pixel devices - but I simply haven’t felt that feeling of my phone becoming irrelevant as much as I did with my various android devices.

          Same story repeated with tablets -> iPads seem to last forever / until the wheels fall off. I’ve owned Galaxy Tabs, Nexus 12s, etc -> they do not have the same longevity period. It’s sad honestly I wish that weren’t true.

          I have a MacBook Pro 2013 that still runs like new (one battery replacement along the way). I can’t even imagine what a 10 year old Dell or Lenovo or HP would be right now. A paperweight?

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            The laptops are subpar, miss me with that soldered SSD bullshit

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        Well designed and beautiful are two very subjective words for a discussion about objective differences.

        I think that iphones are bland and kind of ugly for their caliber of technology. My last phone was the sage-back pixel 5 and I absolutely loved the design of that thing. The thing is, looks alone don’t constitute superiority.

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        I don’t care about the beauty and I think some android phones are prettier, but iPhone hardware is ludicrously fast and that’s one of the reasons I have one.

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          Samsung equivalents have better hardware for the same price

          E: I can guarantee you the downvotes are from people who have never even looked at the hardware in their phone. Nobody will even engage with the numbers.

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              This stuff always makes people defensive, but it’s better to make informed decisions. There is no dismissing this data, period. It’s not just a number score, the specs are there for you to read. The equivalent Samsungs have twice the RAM and two more processor cores than their apple counterparts.

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                You aren’t informing yourself when you read versus.com You’re comparing numbers and those numbers are often not comparable because they either aren’t counting the same thing or they’re an implementation detail that doesn’t affect the actual outcome. Versus.com is essentially worthless search spam.

                For example, comparing cores and clock cycles between different architectures is useless.

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          Until the battery gets old lol. iPhones are fine; they’re simple phones for simple people.

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            Preferring simplicity in your smartphone doesn’t make you simple.

            And what phone doesn’t need a battery replacement after a few years?

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              Sure it does.

              Every phone needs a battery replacement after a few years, but not every phone will perform worse because of it. When your iphone battery wears out, your phone slows down. You have to replace the battery to both improve performance and battery life. When your android battery wears out, your phone does not slow down. It just runs out of battery sooner. Replacing the battery will not improve performance as it never slowed down in the first place unlike an iphone.

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                That’s because with any phone, an old battery stops being able to provide enough current to the phone when it gets old. So Apple throttles the phone. Phones that don’t do that become unstable, while the iPhone remains stable, but slows down.

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                  Maybe if you keep using it once it doesn’t hold a charge for more than an hour, but I’ve never done that. When my batteries have gotten low, the phone didn’t start crashing more or acting weird, just running out of battery sooner.

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        beauty of an iphone

        Generic ass glass slab with a very short service life

        Miss me with that clown shit.