I see this way too often here on Lemmy, so I want to post this. Starting a commune is legal in most countries. If you believe in communism, you can found a commune and show us all how great it is.

You lack money? Well, that is literally what stock markets and venture capitalists (capitalism) are created to solve. If you are ready for an IPO, you can sell shares to raise funds. If you are not, you can get Venture Capital in exchange for shares until you are ready for an IPO.

Getting rid of capitalism means you need to find a different way to obtain funding for new ventures. And if your system relies on government charity (some government board handing you money) or taking resources violently, than your system sucks.

Edit: I don’t mean that this is a replacement for full communist system. I mean this as a way to get some of the advantages while showing sceptics (like me) it can work and is better. A first step.

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    overall, i rate this post lmao/10. I wish i thought it was a joke.

    Remember, OP: you are not immune to propoganda

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      I know I am not. But I am an engineer, so I am able to tell apart a workable plan and wishful thinking. I have never heard anything but wishful thinking from communism proponents. I know that does not mean a workable plan does not exist but I tend to not believe in things I see no evidence of.

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        I don’t think being an engineer makes you qualified in economics, politics, or sociology.

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          Sure, I don’t claim it does. But it makes me skilled enough to identify when a proposal is missing large parts that are needed to implement it.

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            You don’t even seem to know what communism is, seeing as you conflate it with socialism in another of your comments

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              No, I will readily admit I don’t even know what communism would be in practice beyond the vague nonsense people say like “collective ownership”. I have been trying to ask here for a few days now and didn’t really get anywhere.

              That is exactly my criticism. From what I have seen, communism is not an implementable plan, it is a “politicians promise” of things being better without the rich with nothing backing that claim up.

              Of course, feel free to prove me wrong by providing a link or an explanation. Or even better, by implementing it in reality on a smaller scale as the post challenges the readers to.

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                “collective ownership” is not vague. the simplest way to transform capitalism into socialism is to make every company a co-op and implement progressive tax policy.

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                  ;D Maybe if your understanding of economy does not go beyond people in factories make things :D

                  I mean, you have no right to act this clueless when the main post gives one of the issues away. Namely: How do you get investment for new companies?

                  Also, you are mixing communism and socialism. ;D Did you not even read the whole comment chain? How do you manage to do this when I was called out for this in the comment I was replying to? ;D

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                    dude you’re insufferable oml

                    investments can come from public funding for research which is democratically decided or headed by democratically elected experts

                    the entire ideology I hold is that people need to be directly involved in economic decision making. that is all. it can’t be held away from the people, because then the decisions won’t benefit them.

                    can you please not act like such a prick when making your points?