• sab@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Genuinely curious who’ll be killed off first - him or Putin.

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      11 months ago

      Putin’s immensely popular both domestically and in the Global South. Navalny is popular in the West and in some parts of Russia.

      With the rise of the Global South, my money is on Putin keeping it together.

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        11 months ago

        domestic numbers spoofed, when anti-putin riots occur frequently and are brutallt supressed it’s hard to say it’s ‘immense’

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            11 months ago

            Been to Russia and live on the border of it. Basically if you have a chance of beating Putin you aren’t going to be an option to vote for. The part of the government who decides who will be the options is controlled by Putin. The approval is pretty much bullshit, I haven’t asked everyone in Russia but I have yet to meet someone who supports Putin, especially after he invaded Ukraine.

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              11 months ago

              I know Russians who live in Europe and who are deeply anti war and Putin, but whose families are still completely buying into Russian propaganda and who think their own children are lying to them.

              I also know Russians from less brainwashed families who are critical.

              More strikingly perhaps, I had a friend a little less than a decade ago who went to study in Russia for half a year, and came back completely apologetic for everything Putin stood for. I cut contact and haven’t heard from her since, so I have no idea where she stands now, but it was a forceful demonstration of the propaganda apparatus. It’s not that they’re necessarily evil or bad people, they’ve just been subject to world-class propaganda for decades. Opposing Putin after all that takes quite a lot of work.

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              11 months ago

              Not OP. Born and live here. Can’t say about the ‘Global South’ thing, but he’s far from loosing even legit elections, too much apathy, and if something, people around me of all walks of life only want to be left alone. Living standards decreased, prices increased, but locals still manage their day2day life. Still something to lose, still a will to ignore, and a general mindset of them political things being too big for us little men.

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      11 months ago

      I think Putin. I mean, killing Navalny or keeping him in that place is basically the same effort and risk for the Kremlin. Maybe is safer to leave him there, tbh

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      11 months ago

      technically true actually as putin does make the laws, so in his eyes it’s criminal to run against him

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      11 months ago

      I don’t get it. You’re a socialist, sure, and the USSR was socialist, but you think they’re socialist now? You think that Putin is a socialist. Poor fool.

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        11 months ago

        Navalny is a racist son of a removed, doesn’t deserve anyone’s pity. Of all the people who hate Putin, liberals really support the worst one

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          11 months ago

          It doesn’t seem like you read my comment. Did I say I supported Navalny? No, I called you a retard if you, a presumed socialist, support Putin, a capitalist dictator.