I genuinely adore dogs and love seeing them anywhere I am! But places that sell and prepare food should be off-limits (except for service animals, of course. Their accessibility outweighs these concerns). Some people have super sensitive allergies, just pet dander/hairs floating through the air can be irritating or worse. Some people have a crippling fear of dogs, maybe for a reason? Pets may be fine 99% of the time around family/friends, but they’re still animals. Unlike service animals, they haven’t been tested or screened for emergency situations or stress-tested. They can and do snap, and there’s no way to know if it will happen. When it does, it’s lose/lose/lose: pain & suffering, lawsuits, and almost certainly a loving pet being euthanized.
Fully agree. It’s just not sanitary either, and I know everyone will assume I mean their dog is dirty. I mean that any animal brings unknown elements into a place that makes food. One good shake of a wet dog and you have dirt and debris flying around people eating, and you’re exactly right things like that may affect others way more even if it doesn’t affect you.
I’m okay with dogs in places like breweries, it’s still a risk but as long as there is plenty of space it’s probably fine. Food though adds a whole other element that I don’t think they belong in.
I work in hospitality and while all your points are valid I do wish there was a solution that allowed a little wiggle room accounting for good communication and personal responsibility.
There area where I live has dozens of small bars and pubs and my issue with every single place accommodating every possible allergic reaction and preference is that they can kind of end up samey. I’m not saying it’s realistic but I don’t think it’d be a bad thing for Pub A to say Dogs are fine but no kids please as long as Pub B says Kids are great but no dogs and Pub C can say No kids or dogs but weird sex shit is fine. A man can dream!
I do agree with you. While the health concerns with dogs are valid, I do feel like there should be some designated dog friendly places. It can get really difficult to arrange your schedule around so that the dog doesn’t stay at home for too long. I live with my mom and my boyfriend, and we almost never go places with the 3 of us as a group.
Also, health issues aside, as far as being disruptive, I feel like kids can be just as disruptive.
With so many businesses disallowing dogs, it can sometimes feel like you’re almost being punished for having a dog.
Man, you just made me sad by remembering that my local Pub D that didn’t give a shit about kids, dogs, or weird sex shit is closing down. Sucks cuz it’s the only openly LGBTQ+ bar in the area that I’m aware of.
Which means nothing when it comes to places that serve and sell food as the issue is the fecal bacterial cultures that spread when dogs lick their butts and then lick their feet as well as any allergy concerns.
Your dog could be the best behaved dog in the world and they still can’t get around biological realities.
If the dogs are spreading them with their feet then your shoes are picking them up. They may not survive that long but they are getting transported. Everything dogs walk on, so do we.
Again, not really because the nature if shoes and foot skin provide entirely different surfaces for bacterial adhesion. For example my current shoes soles aren’t porous like my feet are.
Let me preface this by first saying I agree that dogs should generally not be allowed in food serving establishments because their hair goes everywhere and nobody likes eating dog hair.
With that said though, I have never once seen my dog lick his own butt. What on earth are other people’s dogs doing?! The closest my dog has gotten to licking his butt is licking around his genitalia, which I grant you is unclean as well, but he’s fluffy and keeps the hair between his legs clean and un-matted. But butt licking?!
Now here’s where I get down voted to hell, but I have to play devil’s advocate lol. I would argue that kids are a MUCH larger vector of bacteria and viruses that are of concern to the average adult human than any dog. Dogs are gross, sure, but I’ll take a lick from a strange dog over a strange toddler’s sticky hands on me!
We should keep dogs out of food places, but mostly cause hair and allergies - if we’re going to ban beings due to their gross factor though that list should be much longer (toddlers, homeless, anyone that didn’t wash their hands after using the restroom…)
I genuinely adore dogs and love seeing them anywhere I am! But places that sell and prepare food should be off-limits (except for service animals, of course. Their accessibility outweighs these concerns). Some people have super sensitive allergies, just pet dander/hairs floating through the air can be irritating or worse. Some people have a crippling fear of dogs, maybe for a reason? Pets may be fine 99% of the time around family/friends, but they’re still animals. Unlike service animals, they haven’t been tested or screened for emergency situations or stress-tested. They can and do snap, and there’s no way to know if it will happen. When it does, it’s lose/lose/lose: pain & suffering, lawsuits, and almost certainly a loving pet being euthanized.
The stress test is dropping a book on the floor.
Yep. Service animals, drug-snuffing dogs, etc are usually just crowded into a room where a book is dropped. Then they’re good to go!
There is training of course. But that is the stress part.
Fully agree. It’s just not sanitary either, and I know everyone will assume I mean their dog is dirty. I mean that any animal brings unknown elements into a place that makes food. One good shake of a wet dog and you have dirt and debris flying around people eating, and you’re exactly right things like that may affect others way more even if it doesn’t affect you.
I’m okay with dogs in places like breweries, it’s still a risk but as long as there is plenty of space it’s probably fine. Food though adds a whole other element that I don’t think they belong in.
I work in hospitality and while all your points are valid I do wish there was a solution that allowed a little wiggle room accounting for good communication and personal responsibility.
There area where I live has dozens of small bars and pubs and my issue with every single place accommodating every possible allergic reaction and preference is that they can kind of end up samey. I’m not saying it’s realistic but I don’t think it’d be a bad thing for Pub A to say Dogs are fine but no kids please as long as Pub B says Kids are great but no dogs and Pub C can say No kids or dogs but weird sex shit is fine. A man can dream!
I do agree with you. While the health concerns with dogs are valid, I do feel like there should be some designated dog friendly places. It can get really difficult to arrange your schedule around so that the dog doesn’t stay at home for too long. I live with my mom and my boyfriend, and we almost never go places with the 3 of us as a group.
Also, health issues aside, as far as being disruptive, I feel like kids can be just as disruptive. With so many businesses disallowing dogs, it can sometimes feel like you’re almost being punished for having a dog.
Man, you just made me sad by remembering that my local Pub D that didn’t give a shit about kids, dogs, or weird sex shit is closing down. Sucks cuz it’s the only openly LGBTQ+ bar in the area that I’m aware of.
There is the canine good citizen test that many people do with their dogs.
Which means nothing when it comes to places that serve and sell food as the issue is the fecal bacterial cultures that spread when dogs lick their butts and then lick their feet as well as any allergy concerns.
Your dog could be the best behaved dog in the world and they still can’t get around biological realities.
The same bacteria on everyone’s shoes…
No, the soles of my shoes aren’t warm enough to keep them alive.
If the dogs are spreading them with their feet then your shoes are picking them up. They may not survive that long but they are getting transported. Everything dogs walk on, so do we.
Again, not really because the nature if shoes and foot skin provide entirely different surfaces for bacterial adhesion. For example my current shoes soles aren’t porous like my feet are.
Oh good. So you’re willing to eat off the soles of your shoes?
More willing to eat off the soles of my shoes than off a dog’s paw.
Let me preface this by first saying I agree that dogs should generally not be allowed in food serving establishments because their hair goes everywhere and nobody likes eating dog hair.
With that said though, I have never once seen my dog lick his own butt. What on earth are other people’s dogs doing?! The closest my dog has gotten to licking his butt is licking around his genitalia, which I grant you is unclean as well, but he’s fluffy and keeps the hair between his legs clean and un-matted. But butt licking?!
Now here’s where I get down voted to hell, but I have to play devil’s advocate lol. I would argue that kids are a MUCH larger vector of bacteria and viruses that are of concern to the average adult human than any dog. Dogs are gross, sure, but I’ll take a lick from a strange dog over a strange toddler’s sticky hands on me!
We should keep dogs out of food places, but mostly cause hair and allergies - if we’re going to ban beings due to their gross factor though that list should be much longer (toddlers, homeless, anyone that didn’t wash their hands after using the restroom…)
I guess I’d better not let my dog in the kitchen or dining area at home.
You germaphobes are fun.
It’s not germ-phobic, it’s biology. And you shouldn’t let your dog on counters or tables for sanitary purposes.
And what about all the rest? How can anyone know that human is a good human and that human is a bad human?
Edit: spelling