• SK4nda1@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Bullshit. They make expensive electric cars because thats where the money was. Here in the eu tons of people want to drive electric, but at the prices they offer in this economy, they’ll only reach the wealthy.

    The only reason these “c level” directors and managers are coming out and saying this is because the easy money is gone and now they really have to innovate. Which is expensive.

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      In the usa the poor don’t really have anywhere to charge these cars even if they were cheap enough to afford.

      It is impossible to compete with a less than five minute fill up for 300+ miles range.

      Not to mention that reports place charging on public charges to be more costly than gas.

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        1 year ago

        Poor people also can’t afford to buy brand new vehicles, so this is kind of a moot point, though something that will need to be addressed in the coming years.

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          Depend s in what you define poor. There is a huge segment of the population thay own leases vehicles that don’t own a home

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            Well I’m using the same designation of ‘poor’ as you were in the above comment. I’d say those with leased vehicles would definitely not fall into the category of poor.

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              Lots of people lease cars that they can’t afford and are basicly car poor. I was house poor when we bought our first house. Lots of low cost meals like pasta and bologna sandwiches so we could make payments while buying furniture and making repairs

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                Being car poor and house poor isn’t being poor.

                Home owners and/or people getting brand new cars every 2-3 years have decent incomes and if you fall into one of these two groups while considering yourself poor, it’s because you’re overspending not because you don’t have enough income to meet the bare minimum for survival. Those are the people who are poor.

                Furthermore, in your original comment you talked about poor people not having anywhere to charge their vehicle and now you’re telling me you meant homeowners who bought too much house for their income while also owning a brand new car? Give me a break. I’m sure you can find an extra $500 to have a charger installed.

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        In the usa the poor don’t really have anywhere to charge these cars even if they were cheap enough to afford.

        You mean to tell me “the poor” don’t have access to electricity? How poor are we talking exactly? Because I’m thinking enough money to spend, say, $30k on a brand new car… which is still pretty well off.

        I mean sure, if you live in a cheap inner city apartment, then you might not have a garage to park/charge in. But I bet a lot of people in that situation have access to public transit anyway - they’re not really the target market for cars in general.

        It is impossible to compete with a less than five minute fill up for 300+ miles range.

        Most people charge their EV overnight. It’d be even better to charge during the day though, when electricity (can be) cheaper thanks to solar power.

        Not to mention that reports place charging on public charges to be more costly than gas.

        Yeah you’re going to have to share a source for that. Sounds hard to believe.

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          In the UK, public fast chargers are mostly around the 80p/kwh Mark. With a decently light foot and getting 4 miles per kwh, that’s 20p a mile. With gas at £1.55 a litre, and a 60mpg (UK) hybrid, that’s about 12p a mile.

          Home charging an ev on an appropriate tariff costs about 7p/kwh, or about 1.75p per mile.

          Public charging is fucking expensive.

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            1 year ago

            There was a lot of stuff in that comment that was out of touch with what it’s like to have not or have little.

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          People who are barely making ends meet don’t usually buy new cars. They buy used. You can get something tolerable for a hell of a lot less than 30k.

          Plus, if you’re poor, there’s a good chance you live in a shitty (maybe unsafe) neighborhood. You might not have a driveway, never mind a garage. If you leave your car to charge overnight, you have to worry about some asshole unplugging it, or even taking/vandalizing the extension cord.