• Madison420@lemmy.world
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    Some people in hamas and we should add that multiple Israeli government members have called for genocide of Palestinians as well dive the raid and well well before.

    You can’t really mention one without the other.

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      It’s written as hamas’ goal in their documents.

      multiple Israeli government members have called for genocide of Palestinians

      There are no signs of it being a real vector of their policy because otherwise they would act unprovoked upon it. When did that happen at all?

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        Sure, and there’s good reason to believe they weren’t actually elected.

        Bro they’ve killed 3000 plus kids in less than a month, of genocide isn’t their intent it is certainly the inevitable outcome. When did Israel act unprovoked? Like at least once a week for 30 years, pay attention.

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          Sure, and there’s good reason to believe they weren’t actually elected.

          They operate Gaza and all the humanitarian aid. If someone has power over Gaza it’s them. And if not, then there is no one to talk to.

          Bro they’ve killed 3000 plus kids in less than a month

          3000 Palestinians? These numbers come from hamas so they are not to be trusted by default. Also, you have to consider how hamas forces Israel to attack civillian infrastructure by firing missiles from it. And hamas doesn’t provide any defense for Palestinians, and they say it’s not their responsibility. Man, “let us fire rockets at Jews, don’t let them attack us back, don’t stop those funds coming so we could build more rockets, and look how we promise to repeat mad attacks again and again until we destroy Israel, because we are victims”, pretty cool guys. And people are like “wtf do as they say, they are freedom fighters”.

          When did Israel act unprovoked? Like at least once a week for 30 years, pay attention.

          Please provide exact cases of 2 unprovoked attacks between September 22 and October 7.

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            They operate part of Gaza. Also no, there are hundreds of third party groups that organize aid, the fact Israel calls them all Hamas does not make it true.

            Those numbers come from third party groups like the UN. https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

            Hamas doesn’t force anything, Israel refusing to think of humanity and instead of ground assault just bomb the whole place off the face of earth. if I hold a gun to a child to force a bank robber to give up am I the bad person or are we both shitty examples of humanity?

            Bro, settlers spit from their raised walkways onto Palestinians literally every day. Small slights matter and I’m pretty sure they roof knocked a building on the 19th anyway.

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              They operate part of Gaza.

              Who operates the rest of it then?

              Those numbers come from third party groups like the UN. https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

              This website is promising but there are no “over 3000 children over a month” figures here.

              Hamas doesn’t force anything

              When you attack a developed country with an army from a specific location, you are asking to bomb this location as a response. Don’t know if it’s s surprise to anyone, but it just works like that. You wouldn’t suppose it would mean “please don’t bomb this location” instead?

              if I hold a gun to a child to force a bank robber to give up am I the bad person or are we both shitty examples of humanity?

              If before doing so you shoot that robber’s friends and pretend it never happened, you are worse than those robbers.

              But really, this analogy is beautiful. I now know the proper solution to all our problems, and with no bloodshed. Here is what Hamas should say: “We are martyrs and you are oppressors. We refuse to live under oppression. We mined every single house and every single Palestinian. If you don’t reconsider we will detonate it all at once.”

              Bro, settlers spit from their raised walkways onto Palestinians literally every day.

              What walkways? As if anyone has the time to spit at all anywhere, damn.

              Small slights matter and I’m pretty sure they roof knocked a building on the 19th anyway.

              What building? Who? I’m not getting it. “It doesn’t matter that Israel didn’t bombed a hospital because at the same day they bombed another building anyway”?