• Spiderwort@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 hours ago

    I like scifi. I like to explore the strange and push past the walls of reality. I like dangerous visions. Big ideas.

    But interpersonal drama, identity-stroking and, yes, politics. It’s just weak and boring. It’s small. Damn small.

    Do you see the difference?

    Sometimes startrek goes big. Sometimes it doesn’t.

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      You need good characters to make a good show regardless of the setting, and also to help the viewers relate to the “big” stuff going on around them.

      Don’t get me wrong, I think I like the stuff you like. I’d happily watch a documentary about all the made up technology and new science & life they discover, with zero need for conflict or personal growth or “feelings” or whatever. But that wouldn’t be the TV show, which is experienced largely through the eyes of the crew.

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      Sci-fi is at its best when it recontextualizes an idea in a way that makes us consider it from a different perspective.

      Battlestar Galactica did an awesome job of turning the issues around entirely. Famously, it essentially turned the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan on their heads in Season 3, and you had the good guys building IEDs and employing suicide bombers to kill collaborators.

      But my favorite one was when they came up with a situation in which outlawing abortion was necessary, and the political opposition used it as an opportunity to manufacture outrage and steal an election even though they didn’t actually care about the issue at all.

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        5 hours ago

        But you don’t need spaceships and aliens to do that. It’s just fetishwear at that point.

        In real scifi it isn’t fetishwear. It actually serves a purpose.

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          The spaceships and aliens are how you get people to look at it from a new perspective.

          The early seasons of DS9 were about the aftermath of the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan and the fall of the Soviet Union. 1990s Americans couldn’t have cared less about the dangers of far-right religious indoctrination of schoolchildren, the re-intrigation of traumatized resistance fighters into peacful society, the cautious restoration of political and economic ties with former occupiers, and the danger of the discovery of a new resource in the territory of a politically and militarily fragile nation full of extremists.

          But throw in phasers and a warp drive and people will watch. Suddenly you’ve tricked people into recognizing that people with different backgrounds and religions can embrace their differences to make the world a better place, or reject that unity and create suffering. You have capitalists and socialists sharing space in peace. There’s an invented taboo against rekindling an old relationship that’s actually about gay rights.

          All these amazing topics are brought to an audience that just wanted laser fights.

          Any genre show can do it. My parents were as red-blooded Republican as anyone, but the third episode of The Last of Us had them crying tears of joy and pain over the love story between 2 men. It tricked them into becoming open-minded by promising zombies.

          That’s fiction at its finest.