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      It also has about 4x the population, and doesn’t pollute 4x more.

      Plus it’s still the largest manufacturing hub in the world. Europe would pollute a lot more if we hadn’t exported a lot of (some might say too much) of our industry to the developing world and China over the last 50 years.

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      I’m not holding China up as some panacea, it’s very far from perfect (e.g. authoritarian security state, denial of Taiwanese independence, etc.), but i do think it does less net harm than the US. I would also suggest that the things we criticise China for are things which we would overlook in a country which was perceived as less of a threat to western dominance.

      In any case, i was trying to say not that i want the US to be like China, but rather that i think the only way to prevent the US from killing us all is through a radical change of attitude, most likely caused by the loss of a major conflict.

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          Haha, yes, i think so. Although it can’t be easy when it feels like the rest of the world (well, lemmy) is piling on to talk shit about your country