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      A wrecked bootloader is not a problem, but a lesson to keep a usb drive to be able to chroot.

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    Never seen the third LotR film; I was literally about to finally watch it today so thanks for spoiling the movie for me.

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      The moment I finally installed Arch was then I felt “freedom” for the first time. No longer do I need to make compromises on my system and have things installed that I don’t need or want. It’s my system that I put together the way I like it. A bonus is that I know my system pretty well if something should break and I have the wiki to guide me

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    I tried arch once. Eventually, my computer just showed a black screen on booting. I managed to fix it by resetting my bios. That was the end of that attempt at using arch. Still want to try again, though.

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      I had this happen once or twice, caused by bad Nvidia drivers with Wayland.

      I use AMD now for my day job, haven’t had a single issue in over two years. That’s not to say you should use it - it’s still a rolling release distro and will always have a potential to break over most other distros.

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          I’m new to Linux and use Endeavor OS. Its Arch BTW so everything I do I just look up the Arch Wiki.

          Endeavour comes with KDEPlasma, or you can pick others. It also has basic applications like Firefox and media players. But nothing in the way of office etc.

          I think Manjaro is similar but deviates from arch a bit.

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            I’ve been using Mint for a year or two now, but if/when I “upgrade” so to speak to something with more control, I plan to get EOS. Arch is a bit much for me right now and openSUSE and Manjaro borked right away when I tried them (though to be fair, so did Mint-my hardware was too snazzy and I needed to update to the latest kernel to get everything working). But the control Arch offers is tempting, and EOS with KDE would suit me nicely. The best thing about Linux IMO is that you have choices about what you run; you don’t have to use any one distro, because no one can really force you to.

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              My limited knowledge and time force me to certain distros. Some of my stuff only works on EOS, others only on Mint.

              It’s easier to install another distro than spend another hour troubleshooting. I know “just read the wiki” but sometimes we don’t have the skills, imagine a neckbeard trying to “just have a shower, and get out the basement”.

              It makes it even more tempting to move back to Windows where I can just plug and play. But I’m forcing myself not to. … Well that and Win11 isn’t supported.

              And re things not working. I’ll not even a gamer with special hardware. Just use it for web browsing and citrix for WFH.

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    aaaand thats why i like “newbie” distros like ubuntu mint fedora and such.

    i want my computer to work without a hitch and without having to maintain the OS.

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      Ubuntu has never been remotely stable for me. Something stupid breaks or becomes difficult to get what I want out of it.

      Been that way since it came out for me.

      I find Arch much less hassle than Ubuntu ever was.

      Just recently put Ubuntu on a machine for a work project. It was broken from the get go, throwing errors and being it’s usual shitty self.

      I could never recommend it.

      Fedora on the other hand has been on a spare laptop for about 6 months and I gotta say they really have put some polish in. Updates are frequent but reasonable and most everything works well. Some small issues but they are not show stoppers and Fedora is aware of them.

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        i find that distros focusing on ease of use tend to not tolerate modding and prodding as well as the distros focusing on modularity and customizability.

        i think its time to consider something like arch or gentoo when you are changing it around too much at the expense of some more maintaining.

        also yeah fedora is really polished, i like it.

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          I agree. But the last time I used ubuntu for a project recently I only tried to use built in functions, no modding. Never looks good when it throws errors trying to use built in features. Which always seems true with Ubuntu!

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      And I like having my software up-to-date. It sucked ass when I was on Mint and one of my favorite programs had an update and I had to wait months for it to hit the repos.

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        this is why i switched from elementary. really good distro, but its based on ubuntu lts. think years instead of months. big oof.

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      It’s always been bad practice to just blindly update software. That’s why we have different distros.

      Ubuntu and Mint hold your hand and make it easy for newcomers. Great way to dive into Linux. I completely agree these are great for “it just works” and no fuss. I’ve not had one break on me.

      Arch and Gentoo expect you to have experience and know what you’re doing. You build it up how you want it. That’s what makes these so great. But you need the experience and knowledge.

      I’ve personally tried openSUSE and in my opinion it feels like a good middle ground between both ends. In the past I’ve recommended Mint to get started, openSUSE once you’ve got experience, and then Arch for when you want total control.

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        I’ve never really had an issue in the 7 years I’ve used Linux. I don’t use Arch BTW.

        My server OSes all run Debian which can auto update reliability with automatic reboots that happen staggered overnight.

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    As a former arch linux guy, the solution to this is to be prepared by having a separate partition for home, and a bash script to reinstall f—ing everything again with a single command.

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      a bash script to reinstall f—ing everything again

      Why would you ever want to do that?

      First of all, almost any Arch update induced problem can be solved by downgrading the offending package to the previous version, which handily is available in /var/cache/pacman/pkg/. This is an essential Arch troubleshooting skill.

      Even an unbootable system (which has only happened once in my 10 years of using Arch because I didn’t read important news) can be fixed this way, because you can always boot from the installation usb stick and then use arch-chroot to access your installation and fix problems.

      Secondly, if the problem was indeed caused by an Arch update, you will just reinstall the problem if you run a reinstall script.

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        Honestly I only ever learnt Linux admin by troubleshooting my borked Arch updates, necessity being the mother of invention and all.

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        This is an essential Arch troubleshooting skill.

        Well you see, I didn’t know that haha, I know there are better ways to deal with a “defective” arch update but to me, that was the easiest, laziest way to do it and it worked most of the time. I have to admit this was a “me” problem I’m not blaming arch it’s just that I grew tired of things breaking because I didn’t read the news before doing pacman -Syu.

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      It’s not the kernel but always mkinit in my case, on multiple machines. Even if i did never do nothing related. And booster/dracut and Efistub somehow never worked.

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    I am totally ready for it, I know it’s a thing, especially since I drink the forbidden nectar that is the AUR. Yet I’ve never had this happen even once.

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    I used arch over 5 years in the past. Isn’t it common today checking the update news on the arch wiki before updating?

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      Been using EOS a lot longer and always flawless.

      The only problem I have had is leaving a system too long and having to remember how to get the damn keyring to refresh. That is my biggest complaint.