• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      11 months ago

      Have you heard of this idea called “taxes?”

      More than that, are you familiar with the idea of taxes being spent on more than just bloated military and police?

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        11 months ago

        Its easier, for most, to imagine the end of the world than the end of Capitalism.

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        10 months ago

        Just curious, do you want everyone living in cookie cutter multifamily boxes or are people allowed to have houses and different size pieces of land and buildings in your utopia?

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        11 months ago

        Tell me what type of society you are imagining please, in the real world it is already difficult for the average entrepreneur not to evade VAT on at least 30% of his purchases, because if we don’t talk about Nordic countries or Switzerland then I don’t see it feasible how people can accept even more interventions from the government in their lives.

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          11 months ago

          Society should work towards a better life for all, not better profits for a few.

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            11 months ago

            I don’t disagree, but that platitude has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

            Your comic said to cancel all rent and mortgages and give everyone a house, which is not even remotely economically feasible.

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              11 months ago

              Its not economically feasible because modern economics functions to create monetary value not tangible value for our society. You shouldn’t view it through the lense of what is “economically feasible” we should view it through the lense of what we should value as a society. Homelessness exists as a motivating coercive force to keep us buying into a system that would kick us to the curb if any of us were dealt a few bad hands in life. Its why our insurance is tied to our employment. The system is fundamentally broken for humanity to exsist inside of healthily, so much so that alot of us cant even imagine a society outside of it.

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                  11 months ago

                  The second i read this comment, the State Anthem of the USSR got stuck in my head.

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                    11 months ago

                    Yawn. Let us know when you have actionable steps. Daydreaming is easy and worthless.

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        11 months ago

        The bailouts were loans. The us govt got that money back.

        Those banks should have been punished though, allowed to fail.

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          11 months ago

          Yes, the private sector did have enough capital to cover those loans. The public sector did it because it was a bad investment when you count opportunity cost.

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          11 months ago

          Didn’t the bailouts return less money with inflation though? We can’t even give students less interest than inflation with student loans. If the tables were turned the banks wouldn’t have taken less than 5% interest.