• rubpoll [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      This is like if the Confederacy retreated to Catalina Island, massacred everyone there, and continued calling itself the rightful government of the entire continent afterward.

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        This is not like that. The ROC government did not “massacre everyone there.” It did call itself the rightful government of the entire China for several decades, but it has since then moved on.

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      Is that a bad thing? In your hypothetical situation, Chinese people should be happy about their government selling weaponry to Texas, and the Americans should not support their sale of weaponry. To compare this to the real world scenario, Chinese people should feel angry about this and Americans should feel good. I don’t really get the point you’re trying to convey with your analogy.

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      Man, these days you know a hexbear without even looking at the user.

      I mean this is complete baloney! You are also using the comparison to establish some kind of “evil slavers vs democracy” narrative that wasn’t in place at all in China during the warlord era. They were all equally horrid.

      This is, at best, akin to a war between all states in the US after the Boston Tea Party and a communist state, let’s just pick Arizona, slowly winning the wars and forcing the remaining faction onto Hawaii. Then the socialist party forced anyone who could read, more or less, to work themselves to death in a field in the name of communism. Glory to the people!!!

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        I agree. People should take how the Chinese government and the US government treat their people into consideration.

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          So are we gonna talk about how USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world? Are we going to talk about income equality in USA vs China? Are we going to talk about the Concentration camps for refugee children on the USA border? (If you are going to bring up Xinjiang I’m going to need some photographic evidence beyond vibes and zenz doing bad statistical analysis)

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            What does incarceration rate have to do with how good the country is? Do you really believe that the income is more equal in China? If you are going to talk about the “concentration camps” on the USA border I’m going to need photo evidence too. Here is a photo of the camp in Xinjiang:

            ::: spoiler :::

            No, this photo is not fake.

            • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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              What does incarceration rate have to do with how good the country is?

              not “how good it is” “How it treats its people” America locks up its people way more (531/100k) than other China (119/100k). Is imprisoning people treating them well?

              Kids in cages. There’s some photo’s there and I think you’ll probably respect WaPo as a source.

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              You can try again but I’m gonna guess that it is just a picture of a building or some prisoners with no context on how many people are there or why they are there.

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                I apologize for saying “how good it is.” I was in a rush and couldn’t think of a better phrase.

                I just read through the article from the Washington Post you linked. That really is bad and I believe that the Trump government should not have treated the (although illegal) immigrants. The grim appearance of that facility really isn’t something that the immigrants should have faced when they set foot on the US. However, compare that to the situation in Xinjiang. Here is an opinion post from the Washington Post. What China is doing to its Uyghurs is genocide. Not that it justifies anything that the US have done to its immigrants, but in comparison what the US is doing seem pretty mild.

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                  Here is an opinion post from the Washington Post.

                  that’s not news that is an opinion piece that references Zenz who is a liar and Nazi sympathiser.

                  The UN has done a fact finding Mission and they said there is no evidence of a Uyghur Genocide. It didn’t happen.

                  Yes there are Vocational schools in Xinjiang but that is to teach people trades to lift themselves out of poverty. The only “culture” being erased is religious extremist terrorism that snuck in through Afghanistan when USA pushed the Taliban out of Afghanistan. Yes there was a rapid increase in birth control measures in Xinjiang but that is what happens when women are given education, economic self determination, and access to proper medical care. They get a IUD so they can focus on living their lives the way they want to instead of being slaves to men who use them as domestic servants and baby incubators.

                  Zenz based his entire “genocide” theory off statistics and bad math because he is involved in the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation. It is an organization built to spread hate against communism. They hate Communism because the USSR killed 7/10 nazis that died in WW2. The large majority of “Victims of Communism” were Nazis and the people memorializing them are nazis too.

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    I can’t WAIT for Taiwan to turn into the next Ukraine 😍! The final victory of liberal democracy over the global 99% is imminent!

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    So… a couple of tomahawk missiles and a container of uniforms. Taiwan secured.

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    I got into an argument with a guy on Reddit because he kept insisting that Taiwan was a sovereign nation and I kept telling him that Taiwan does not view Taiwan as a sovereign nation. At one point he asked me if we sold weapons to China and when I said definitionally yes he lost his shit.

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      A June 2013 poll conducted by DPP showed an overwhelming 77.6% consider themselves as Taiwanese.[140] On the independence-unification issue, the survey found that 25.9 percent said they support unification, 59 percent support independence, and 10.3 percent prefer the “status quo.” When asked whether Taiwan and China are parts of one country, the party said the survey found 78.4 percent disagree, while 15 percent agreed. As for whether Taiwan and China are two districts in one country, 70.6 percent disagree, while 22.8 percent agree

      Taiwan #1