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  • ThiefUserPermissions@lemmy.myserv.one
    8·
    2 hours ago

    The video claims ada lovelace did not write the first computer program but it would kind of depend how you define what that is. If you check wikipedia it states:

    “During 1842–1849, Ada Lovelace translated the memoir of Italian mathematician Luigi Menabrea about Charles Babbage’s newest proposed machine: the Analytical Engine; she supplemented the memoir with notes that specified in detail a method for calculating Bernoulli numbers with the engine, recognized by most of historians as the world’s first published computer program.”

    From : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_programming_languages

    This would indicate its not a cut and dry as the youtuber suggests and also I would assume he is not a historian(no clue who he is) so its unclear why his opinion or definition of computer program should usurp that of most historians who would recognise a term may change over time and be less well defined initially when inspiring a new technology?

  • lordnikon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    151·
    3 hours ago

    I wish it was then it may make sense. Every time I use the MacOS terminal. It’s like an uncanny valley so similar but the more you look the more horrific it becomes. I can’t even say it’s Unix is the problem as freebsd makes complete sense.

  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
    35·
    5 hours ago

    macOS is UNIX, certified UNIX actually.

    But I mean, if someone had the merest impression of macOS and was very familiar with Linux and never bothered to look any further then I’d understand. Maybe they only played around with macOS a little and saw the terminal app had bash and most all the familiar tools as on Linux. It’s not hard to see why they might’ve thought it’s Linux based.

    • Dragonstaff@leminal.spaceEnglish
      171·
      3 hours ago

      I think 10% of people believe nearly anything. It’s basically the rounding error for a survey.

      Honestly, if you had asked me 10 minutes ago “Is MacOS based on Linux?” I would have gotten it wrong. But if you asked “Is MacOS based on UNIX or Linux?” I would have gotten it right.

      • Cousin Mose@lemmy.hogru.ch
        5·
        4 hours ago

        It is now, but it was bash before.

        But in any case once you start doing anything remotely advanced you’ll find the individual command line utilities are wildly different between macOS and Linux. They seem (are?) much closer to FreeBSD than GNU utilities.

    • Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      101·
      2 hours ago

      That license does nothing.

      Your comments aren’t licensed because you put something in them. It’s stopping nothing. Licensing is an agreement, and requires parties to consent. You don’t just magically force licenses onto people.

      If this was real I could license my comments where if you read them, you owe me 10k.

      This is the digital equivalent of sovereign citizens.

        • RogueBanana@lemmy.zipEnglish
          4·
          1 hour ago

          I am getting annoyed on your behalf lol. Why do people feel the need to screech at others doing something harmless when they could just shut up and ignore it is beyond me. Not a fair comparison but it does feel like republicans shouting at trans people.

          • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 hour ago

            Thanks, appreciate the support!

            It’s amazing how bent out of shape some people get about this, both currently, as well as about tenish months ago when I last was on Lemmy (check out my comment history from that time period if you really want to get annoyed).

            I got to imagine that its people who want to farm the comments for their LLMs training, that are trying to prevent the popular usage of people licensing their content.

            This comment is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

          • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
            101·
            3 hours ago

            Nope, the opposite: in the absence of an explicit license, the default is “all rights reserved.”

          • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
            62·
            5 hours ago

            I don’t think just thanking someone is real content. /shrug

            (Edit: I also declare all that I post/comment is licensed by me as well, in my user account description area.)

            But answering someone who thinks they are being funny or annoying, by explaining things to them, would be considered content by me.

            This comment is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

            • toynbee@lemmy.world
              5·
              5 hours ago

              I kind of suspected it might be something like that, but it was a genuine query that, yes, was intended to be mildly humorous. I don’t intentionally annoy except maybe my wife.

              Your indirect accusation made me smirk, but as far as I’ve noticed you’re the only one who does this without doing it on every comment, which seemed interesting enough to observe.

                • toynbee@lemmy.world
                  3·
                  4 hours ago

                  Ah. Well, I have questions or comments I could make about the license. However, while I feel passionately about Unix and Linux and OSS in general, I don’t think I have anything useful or interesting to add to the thread that hasn’t already been said.

                  I wish you luck both with finding engaging conversation and with your licensing.

      • infeeeee@lemm.ee
        96·
        6 hours ago

        You are not new to lemmy, it says you registered a year ago, but is this the first time you meet a comment with license info? You are one of today’s lucky 10000.

        I’ve seen this on multiple users, usually it’s some anti ai license. Like the laws stopped facebook from torrenting copyrighted books, an anti ai license will stop the next ai startup scraping the fediverse.

        • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
          32·
          6 hours ago

          I’m only aware of myself, and the one other person who I learned to do this from, on Lemmy. That was tenish months ago, but still.

          I haven’t seen anyone else, even the other person I mentioned previously, since having returned to Lemmy recently.

          Be nice if you were right, but I haven’t seen it really.

          This comment is licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

  • irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    392·
    7 hours ago

    I mean it’s kind of like the “humans evolved from monkeys” or whatever primate you want to substitute for monkey. No, they branched off from a common ancestor though.

    I mean lots of people get mixed up between BSD, Linux, UNIX, and all the variations over the years. Is MacOS a version of Linux? No. Is a human a type of ape? No. Are MacOS and Linux way, way closer than either are to Windows, hell yes. Just like people are way closer to being monkeys than swallows. There’s a lot of mixed breeding in both examples and a lot of total incompatibilities as well.

  • just_another_person@lemmy.world
    19·
    6 hours ago

    12% of people believed JFK was going to be resurrected a year ago or some dumb shit. The point is, more than 1/4 of the population are not smart.

  • twinnie@feddit.uk
    11·
    6 hours ago

    Most people think UNIX and Linux are the same thing so this makes sense. Obviously to us they aren’t but for most people it really doesn’t matter. I’m sure they’ll still sleep at night.

  • Zink@programming.dev
    10·
    7 hours ago

    I get that it specifies tech workers, but still my first reaction was that 12% is pretty low. You can find a much higher percentage of people who are confidently wrong about way more important things.

  • Bogasse@lemmy.ml
    91·
    7 hours ago

    I’m not that surprised, a lot of people around me dot have a clear picture of what is the relationship between MacOS, Linux and Unix is. So I suppose some of them would guess that Linux is a modern fork of Unix and MacOS based on Unix.

    • matmarspace@programming.dev
      111·
      7 hours ago

      I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as GNU, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. GNU is not an operating system unto itself, but rather a gathering of the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components that together with a Linux kernel comprise a full OS as defined by POSIX.

      (Finally it’s the other way around 😆)